Comments on: The Gift of Ishnaan Seva in the Guru’s House http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/ Sat, 17 May 2008 15:22:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Gurjeet Singh http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-21277 Gurjeet Singh Mon, 28 Apr 2008 12:59:34 +0000 http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-21277 Dear Gurumustak, Waheguru Ji Ka Khaksa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh i love Asa di Vaar played in the b'ground, is the audio downloadable somewhere ? Dear Gurumustak,

Waheguru Ji Ka Khaksa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

i love Asa di Vaar played in the b’ground, is the audio downloadable somewhere ?

]]> By: ujjal http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20969 ujjal Mon, 31 Mar 2008 13:30:06 +0000 http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20969 How come some are able to pick up some thing short in everything . They make themselves and others unhappy. Seva can be of varying degrees and it is a journey that the devotee has to embark upon . The sangat has already adopted this path and they are far ahead in the path of seva. MAY GOD BLESS the sangat of ESPANOLA . How come some are able to pick up some thing short in everything . They make themselves and others unhappy. Seva can be of varying degrees and it is a journey that the devotee has to embark upon . The sangat has already adopted this path and they are far ahead in the path of seva. MAY GOD BLESS the sangat of ESPANOLA .

]]> By: Gurumustuk Singh http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20917 Gurumustuk Singh Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:27:33 +0000 http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20917 Balwant....again...the Guru has his own full size room (which you see in the very beginning of the first video at hyperspeed). While the Guru's room is cleaned the Guru is temporarily kept in the smaller area that you saw in the video. Balwant….again…the Guru has his own full size room (which you see in the very beginning of the first video at hyperspeed). While the Guru’s room is cleaned the Guru is temporarily kept in the smaller area that you saw in the video.

]]> By: Balwant http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20916 Balwant Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:56:49 +0000 http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20916 I don't think those people saying to not put the Guru in the cupboard are saying that bigger is better in the American sense of consumption is better or richer is better or money is better. They are saying that for a Gurdwara to have a small cupboard for Sukh Asin room is inappropriate and even a small room, but a room nonetheless, will be much better and more respectul. Gurumustuk Singh above say that those who give Guru title of scripture are wrong as Guru is living Guru. Then if living Guru lets treat as such. I don’t think those people saying to not put the Guru in the cupboard are saying that bigger is better in the American sense of consumption is better or richer is better or money is better. They are saying that for a Gurdwara to have a small cupboard for Sukh Asin room is inappropriate and even a small room, but a room nonetheless, will be much better and more respectul. Gurumustuk Singh above say that those who give Guru title of scripture are wrong as Guru is living Guru. Then if living Guru lets treat as such.

]]> By: SATPALSINGH http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20861 SATPALSINGH Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:01:42 +0000 http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20861 PRABH  KA SIMRAN SAB TO UNCHA PRABH  KA SIMRAN SAB TO UNCHA

]]> By: Sukhbir Singh http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20858 Sukhbir Singh Fri, 21 Mar 2008 01:40:53 +0000 http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20858 What euphoric vibrations reside in the Gurudwara, wish I could be there, whilst I am just an idiot who was destined to to be severed from the Holy Satsangat, unlike you spiritual-uplifting people. The love in the Seva done cannot be described, truly the Guru abides within all, but the sincerity of SEVA is overwhleming, so much love!!! I just wish that this type of Seva will be availibe  , but sometimes its not the case, whilst I enjoy your blog which teaches us the values that we have to abide according to our Guru's teachings. It was an blessing from the True Guru to recognize the value of life, and Sevadaars who consitently work just to please our Sikh society and Panth which can assist those in misery, thank you all!!!! What euphoric vibrations reside in the Gurudwara, wish I could be there, whilst I am just an idiot who was destined to to be severed from the Holy Satsangat, unlike you spiritual-uplifting people. The love in the Seva done cannot be described, truly the Guru abides within all, but the sincerity of SEVA is overwhleming, so much love!!! I just wish that this type of Seva will be availibe  , but sometimes its not the case, whilst I enjoy your blog which teaches us the values that we have to abide according to our Guru’s teachings. It was an blessing from the True Guru to recognize the value of life, and Sevadaars who consitently work just to please our Sikh society and Panth which can assist those in misery, thank you all!!!!

]]> By: Dilbeer Kaur http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20857 Dilbeer Kaur Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:48:48 +0000 http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20857 Sat Sri Akaal Gurmustuk Ji, Re:“The Gift of Ishnaan Seva in the Guru’s House” I really, really enjoyed watching the video of sewa done in the Gurudwara in Española, every weekend.  I sincerely wish, sangat all over the world would do sewa like this, at their respective Gurudwaras.  Where I live, I have noticed with lots of sadness, that sewa is only done by the family and friends hosting the prayers for that Sunday of the week and when we have the Akand Path, there is alot of bitterness amongst the sangat as to who should do the sewa, or who is not doing sewa or who is trying to be bossy about the organising of the whole programme.  The sangat here does not have a permanet Granthi at the premises.  We do have a live in Sewadar, who does the best he can.  The Gurdwara comes to live only on Sundays, or other scheduled days in a year.  A few sewadars who were involve in regular sewa previously, have moved on and others have not filled in the vacant spots. It's with amazement, I see the commaradeship amongst you seeks in Espeniola.  Kudos to you all!  You all are very worthy of being role models for the Sikh Sangat around the world to follow.  Boleh Sonehaal, Sat Sri Akaal!!!!!!!!!! PS:  I have noticed that there is a Sikh Bibiji who has sent a comment on this subject and her name is Sat Sundri Kaur.  I had the pleasure of being in her company when I lived in Boulder, Colorado in the year 1989-90.  Could you please do me a favour and get me in touch with her please, pretty please!  Thanking you in advance. Sat Sri Akaal, Dilbeer Kaur Veygal need to ask you a favo Sat Sri Akaal Gurmustuk Ji,
Re:“The Gift of Ishnaan Seva in the Guru’s House”
I really, really enjoyed watching the video of sewa done in the Gurudwara in Española, every weekend.  I sincerely wish, sangat all over the world would do sewa like this, at their respective Gurudwaras. 
Where I live, I have noticed with lots of sadness, that sewa is only done by the family and friends hosting the prayers for that Sunday of the week and when we have the Akand Path, there is alot of bitterness amongst the sangat as to who should do the sewa, or who is not doing sewa or who is trying to be bossy about the organising of the whole programme. 
The sangat here does not have a permanet Granthi at the premises.  We do have a live in Sewadar, who does the best he can.  The Gurdwara comes to live only on Sundays, or other scheduled days in a year. 
A few sewadars who were involve in regular sewa previously, have moved on and others have not filled in the vacant spots.
It’s with amazement, I see the commaradeship amongst you seeks in Espeniola.  Kudos to you all!  You all are very worthy of being role models for the Sikh Sangat around the world to follow. 
Boleh Sonehaal, Sat Sri Akaal!!!!!!!!!!

PS:  I have noticed that there is a Sikh Bibiji who has sent a comment on this subject and her name is Sat Sundri Kaur.  I had the pleasure of being in her company when I lived in Boulder, Colorado in the year 1989-90.  Could you please do me a favour and get me in touch with her please, pretty please!  Thanking you in advance.

Sat Sri Akaal,
Dilbeer Kaur Veygal
need to ask you a favo

]]> By: Guruka Singh http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20854 Guruka Singh Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:39:23 +0000 http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20854 When I watch these videos, I see nothing but love and reverence. Everything is about intent and attitude. Look deeply. See the intent with your open heart. The heart sees clearly. .....G When I watch these videos, I see nothing but love and reverence. Everything is about intent and attitude. Look deeply. See the intent with your open heart. The heart sees clearly.

…..G

]]> By: Hari Singh Khalsa http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20850 Hari Singh Khalsa Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:26:38 +0000 http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20850 I'd also like to add some background to the issue about the small Guru's room. In the earliest days of the sangat in Española, the Gurdwara, was the Gurdwara, Kitchen and Nivas all in one. In fact there was a need for a business so that people could make a living while forging a new community for Gursikhs. This meant that at least one of the rooms was also used as an office. I have heard personally from one dear Auntiji, that she used to sleep under her desk. These are the humble beginnings of our sangat/Gurdwara/ashram. In these days, the space for the Gurdwara was less than half of the size of the current Gurdwara. If you look at these videos you'll see where the walls are narrower in the back of the Gurdwara, this was the whole Gurdwara. The "nook" where the akandh path now takes place was where the Guru resided during Gurdwara services as well. The small Guru's quarters were built by one of the early sangat member (at least that is my understanding) and it was clearly very fine work as it has lasted all of these years. Without these small quarters there would've been no way to do sukhasan in the early days. Additionally I must comment on the idea that "bigger is better" while this seems to be an almost universally found primitive concept it is certainly a celebrated and exalted ideal in western societies like the US. I call it primitive, however, because with thought one can see that this is not always the case. One could easily justify the smallest of quarters for the Guru as being exactly inline with the Guru's teachings. I would be such a person, as I would say that we owe it to our ideals of seva and to our knowledge of history and gurmat to do so. First as a seva we are serving others by not having excessive space that needs to be lighted, heated and cooled, hence we are saving huge amounts of energy which are typically generated from a coal-fired power plant, which means we are saving literally tons (increments of 2000 pounds) of emissions from polluting people's air space. Second with respect to our knowledge of history and gurmat we see that the Guru is not a king, but a humble servant of the lord. By king I mean that the Guru was not exalted above other men in a show of decadence purely based on birth or blood and not merit as so many kings are. From history we know that the Guru gave up his bed to the adi granth and slept on the floor. The "living Guru" not the adi granth, slept on the floor, this is an utter act of humility. The Guru also constantly refers to "slave Nanak" thus reinforcing the humility and deference the Guru had for god. After understanding the above, making the guru's quarters even one inch larger than it needs to be, could be seen as an act of decadence or obscenity. I’d also like to add some background to the issue about the small Guru’s room. In the earliest days of the sangat in Española, the Gurdwara, was the Gurdwara, Kitchen and Nivas all in one. In fact there was a need for a business so that people could make a living while forging a new community for Gursikhs. This meant that at least one of the rooms was also used as an office. I have heard personally from one dear Auntiji, that she used to sleep under her desk. These are the humble beginnings of our sangat/Gurdwara/ashram. In these days, the space for the Gurdwara was less than half of the size of the current Gurdwara. If you look at these videos you’ll see where the walls are narrower in the back of the Gurdwara, this was the whole Gurdwara. The "nook" where the akandh path now takes place was where the Guru resided during Gurdwara services as well. The small Guru’s quarters were built by one of the early sangat member (at least that is my understanding) and it was clearly very fine work as it has lasted all of these years. Without these small quarters there would’ve been no way to do sukhasan in the early days. Additionally I must comment on the idea that "bigger is better" while this seems to be an almost universally found primitive concept it is certainly a celebrated and exalted ideal in western societies like the US. I call it primitive, however, because with thought one can see that this is not always the case. One could easily justify the smallest of quarters for the Guru as being exactly inline with the Guru’s teachings. I would be such a person, as I would say that we owe it to our ideals of seva and to our knowledge of history and gurmat to do so. First as a seva we are serving others by not having excessive space that needs to be lighted, heated and cooled, hence we are saving huge amounts of energy which are typically generated from a coal-fired power plant, which means we are saving literally tons (increments of 2000 pounds) of emissions from polluting people’s air space. Second with respect to our knowledge of history and gurmat we see that the Guru is not a king, but a humble servant of the lord. By king I mean that the Guru was not exalted above other men in a show of decadence purely based on birth or blood and not merit as so many kings are. From history we know that the Guru gave up his bed to the adi granth and slept on the floor. The "living Guru" not the adi granth, slept on the floor, this is an utter act of humility. The Guru also constantly refers to "slave Nanak" thus reinforcing the humility and deference the Guru had for god. After understanding the above, making the guru’s quarters even one inch larger than it needs to be, could be seen as an act of decadence or obscenity.

]]> By: Gurumustuk Singh http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20849 Gurumustuk Singh Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:47:51 +0000 http://www.mrsikhnet.com/index.php/2008/03/19/the-gift-of-ishnaan-seva-in-the-gurus-house/#comment-20849 Ujjalbir, Charanjeet Kaur has been busy these days so hasn't had a chance to post any new photos of herself. She working on her photography skills so hopefully she'll put up some new pictures soon :) Ujjalbir, Charanjeet Kaur has been busy these days so hasn’t had a chance to post any new photos of herself. She working on her photography skills so hopefully she’ll put up some new pictures soon :)

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